Hampshire Cricket History

Loverly Weverly!
June 28, 2018, 6:59 pm
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Just back after a day full of art, which was perhaps more exciting than Old Trafford, but I’m delighted for Joe Weatherley – it’s no secret that I want to see our own guys coming through and with recent centuries in the Championship and the 50 overs he’s growing into a first team place (fingers crossed)

For the Lions, terrific stuff from Topley and Dawson

2nd XI? Middlesex 147-4 won it – Crane 4-0-28-1 while McManus top-scored with 33.

Second game, Middlesex won by the same margin with 177-4, Crane 4-0-20-1. Chris Wood played and took 1-34. McManus made 0, Sean Ervine scored a century.

So, presumably, if Crane suffers no adverse reaction, he’s in the reckoning? (He only batted once – 14*)

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That’s the end of the Championship for a good few weeks then, and to a large extent over the past nine days, I’ll surprise myself by not missing it much

We’ve had eight uninterrupted days of first class cricket since last Wednesday, in which a grand total of 51 wickets have fallen – fewer than 6.5 wickets a day, and neither match even got to the fourth innings.

Still even that tedium isn’t enough to have me looking forward to the next phase (after Saturday)! Cricket? I’ll be back in (mid) August)

Comment by pompeypop

Interesting to note that in Div One three games were drawn and only Surrey managed a win (at Scarborough) whereas all four Div Two games had results.

Comment by pompeypop

The last two games have been a complete waste of everyone’s time, a few personal milestones notwithstanding.

If you have 2 up 2 down in an 8 team league, coupled with hopeless pitches, it’s a recipe for pointless cricket.

It’s time for the ECB to do something about it, the playing conditions and points are under their control.

How grotesque and untraditional would it be if we were to limit the first innings to 100 overs, forcing the game into a second innings? Points for first innings leads, not just sharing out bonus points, and points for second innings wickets.

Comment by Jeremy

It’s certainly worth considering (or would be if the ECB cared a jot about Championship cricket) and would be easier to administer than another option which would be to dock points for dead wickets.

Comment by James

Sadly agree with you both – I’d rather watch 50 overs than most of that stuff – and it was happening elsewhere too.

Incidentally your suggestion is not “untraditional”. Back in 1966 they limited some first innings to 65 overs (which was VERY stupid) but in the 1970s they had a 100 overs limit (which they could then bowl in a day or less). One classic example is our match v Sussex towards the end of 1975, when we passed 500 (Greenidge 250+) and with Roberts selected but injured, we failed to bowl them out, but they still followed-on!

We didn’t manage it in the second innings largely because MJJ Faber (grandson of Harold Macmillan?) had never had it so good – he scored a big hundred.

Comment by pompeypop

Thanks – I remembered the 65 over fiasco, from your “Forever Changes”, but not the 100 overs in the ’70s – so 3 day cricket.

Athers recently commented that the only point of two innings cricket is to see how players adapt to changing conditions.

Well, if we’ve made pitches so concrete bowler unfriendly that they don’t deteriorate, what point does that leave? Your numbers show we’d actually need 7 days to get a result at the recent bowling strike rate, which is completely absurd – and the OT game was on a used pitch!

Relegation is great when it encourages competitive cricket, but it’s hopeless when the surfaces force an attritional defensive approach.

Clearly, delivering desirable surfaces isn’t something that can be done to order. So the playing conditions need adjusting, so the incentives drive behaviour, dependent on the particular conditions prevailing.

Perhaps something along the same lines would help with Test Cricket.

Comment by Jeremy

I’m with you completely Jeremy! Of course it might be a deliberate ploy to reduce attendances and then the number of matches., although with the Dukes ball, Div Two is sometimes the other way.

This week’s Cricket Paper has commented thus on the match between Kent & Middx (combined two innings total of 180, thanks to a last wicket partnership of 44!):

“The players feel like lab rats, while supporters – and attendances were down compared to usual daytime games – still tend to leave early … As for the pink ball … the Kookaburra in Div One behaves vastly differently to the Dukes in the lower tier … Surely it’s time for the experiment to end?”

Overall this year there have been 10 drawn matches in both divisions, from 30 matches so far in Div One and 34 in Div Two, BUT HAMPSHIRE ARE THE ONLY TEAM TO HAVE DRAWN FOUR.

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